Chile Forum

If this becomes truly pandemic, then I will have to revise my precautions regarding keeping the immune system strong when already infected as it is the 20-40 age group, like in the Spanish flu, who are dying,

This is the cytokine storm where a very efficient and working immune system launches an attack on the virus infecting the lungs and suffocates the victim.

So if infected and you are entering the cytokine storm stage, the key is to temporarily weaken the immune system in some way. The ultimate, with no specialized meds desperate measure would be to down 100g of sugar or take shots of alcohol.

Prevention strategies still hold. Better never to get into a cytokine storm position in the first place.

Oh dear. Well, at least on the up side there's this, if you'd like to change some cash:

http://www.economiaynegocios.cl/noticia ... p?id=62477

James.

There goes the stock market. I am suspecting a peso / dollar move is in the works here.

So if infected and you are entering the cytokine storm stage, the key is to temporarily weaken the immune system in some way. The ultimate, with no specialized meds desperate measure would be to down 100g of sugar or take shots of alcohol.

I'll take that prescription. Besides a bottle of good single malt Wisky is much cheaper than tamiflu, and I can pick it up at my local grocery store. Chile is well prepared, with a population that drinks like a bunch of fish all year around and a large stock pile of good wines, pisco, and chicha sufficient to kill everyone in Chile many times over.

admin wrote:Besides a bottle of good single malt Wisky is much cheaper than tamiflu

Yes, I think I might invest in one with my extra pesos!

BBC International has a good link to eyewitness accounts from Mexico, several of which are from doctors. This seems to be more accurate information than the news stories. I hope that I'm allowed to post this link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

Anani

Totally allowed to post that, accept that I posted it already a bit earlier. Keep similar stuff rolling however.

Still, I find it one of more fascinating and contradictory to the main media is reporting so far.

Whoops, my parents will be in LA next week. I was joking with them yesterday that when they come back home, I'll be greeting them "viejo! vieja! llegaron!" and they'll answer " *oink* *oink!* " then when i see them, they turned into evil mutant pigs and I'd be shouting "hermano! corre por tu vida". OK, I know it's a serious thing, I'm just a random guy... anyways, if you remember an article in the news from here, anyone coming from US, Mexico and some other countries to Chile will be thoroughly "scanned" to make sure noone with swine flu gets here.

This also has possibly major implications for expats who travel via Mexico City's airport.

Mike Adams (aka, The Health Ranger) of <BAND WEB SITE LINK> has a few good articles about this
http://www.<BAND WEB SITE LINK>/026140.html
"Swine Flu Spreads to New York, Canada, Ohio as U.S. Travel remains Unrestricted."
This article is part 1. Be sure to read his part 2 article on the topic, as well, investigating possible origins of this strain of the virus, related to the large outbreak among doctors in Mexico City.

He also has a LIVE teleconference on Thursday, April 30th at 6pm PST
"Swine Flu Advanced Preparedness LIVE Teleconference Announced for Thursday, April 30th"
for those concerned with how to protect themselves from being infected or harmed by the virus.
"Because no vaccine is available, and stockpiled government-supplied anti-viral medicines can only cover a very small percentage of the population (health care workers, mostly), the general public remains highly vulnerable to infection."

The link for that teleconference is below:
http://www.<BAND WEB SITE LINK>/026139.html

This is posted simply for those who may be interested.

mistertk wrote:Whoops, my parents will be in LA next week. I was joking with them yesterday that when they come back home, I'll be greeting them "viejo! vieja! llegaron!" and they'll answer " *oink* *oink!* " then when i see them, they turned into evil mutant pigs and I'd be shouting "hermano! corre por tu vida".

Se te olvidó tomarte la medicina que te recomendó el siquiatra? o ya se te pasó el efecto?

Ha ha, Gloria, you’re quite a card.

Me estaba preocupando porque no sabía donde iba a conseguir la dosis de risa que recomendó JARobin, pero ahora estoy satisfecho.

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The unenjoyed life is not worth living.

Par de pesados no más ¬¬ you don't get my weird humor.
Anyways... breaking news!: http://tele13.beta.canal13.cl/noticias/ ... l/2612.htm (8 personas aisladas ante posible gripe porcina en Santiago)

I seen the head of the Chilean government office in charge of the response on TV tonight. They where reporting two possibles in Temuco, and a few other regions. They said mostly people that went to clinics complaining about flu symptoms, and they are simply testing everyone. Basically we got our statistical hypochondriacs.

So far, other than you have recently visited Mexico or you are dead, there is not too much I have heard anyone say that would distinguish this from the common flu. Genetic testing seems to be the only way to distinguish it from the common bugs.

I wonder if they do some sort of statistical correction during outbreaks for the number of hypochondriacs, and those that have just spent too much time watching TV and reading the Chile forum?

The others in the central region seem to actually have some sort of link to Mexico.

I seen a stat mentioned on TV today that was a bit disturbing, even though they where spinning it as 'why we don't need to worry about swine flu'. There has only been 2 confirmed cases of human infection of swine flu in U.S. history up to the last week or so. Obviously, that leads to the conclusion this bug is bad (but they did not want to jump to that obvious conclusion).

The WHO has gone to DEFCON 4. Which officially means, 'we would raise the global alert to 5, but they would fire us and cut off our funding forever'. If they ever make it to 5, that would read 'we are so screwed already who cares about WHO'.