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Laura55llc wrote:. . . . Apparently the manufacturing was cleverly outsourced.

There's a bit of grim humor in that, don't you think?

'Amazing, how short-sighted some people in control can be.

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:. . . . Or maybe it was all about population control all along.

Not quite yet, I think.

If I can make it without becoming a casualty, I want to hang out with these "swine", they look healthier than most Humans.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthp ... ml?image=9

Beware of the country folk that eye you with a "you look just like a hawg" expression.

That water is gorgeous! I'm glad you posted the photographs, Mikie.

Beware of the country folk that eye you with a "you look just like a hawg" expression.

EEUU, I'll remember that!
And if I catch so much as a glimpse of Burt Reynolds, I'm gone...

MikieO wrote:If I can make it without becoming a casualty, I want to hang out with these "swine", they look healthier than most Humans.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthp ... ml?image=9

Those photos are hilarious-may be the funniest thing I've seen today, although admin's "Warden Message" was at least a close second.

RWS wrote:

Laura55llc wrote:. . . . Apparently the manufacturing was cleverly outsourced.

There's a bit of grim humor in that, don't you think?

'Amazing, how short-sighted some people in control can be.

Yes and yes...

From the HSI folks:

Swine Flu Swindle

The FDA has decided to swindle us.

First they laid the groundwork by scaring us with their ridiculous swine flu estimates. Then they rushed to the rescue, telling us to rely on Tamiflu and Relenza...two potentially dangerous drugs that, by the way, are already implicated in creating a drug- resistant strain of the flu. And now they've apparently decided that it doesn't matter if those drugs are effective -- as long as doctors hand them out anyway.

The FDA is allowing -- actually calling for, endorsing, promoting! -- the use of expired Tamiflu and Relenza. In fact, the agency decided under its SLEP (Shelf Life Extension Program...the name says it all) that four batches of antiviral drugs that expired in June 2009 now expire in May 2011. Magic!

And that's not all... To make sure government agencies can use up all their already bought and paid for and stockpiled, no matter what, they've also decided to waive their own standards. Now even improperly stored Relenza and Tamiflu will be deemed safe and effective for use...even in infants.

Of course, none of this is common knowledge. But it should be -- that's why HSI is bringing you this information when no one else is. You have the right to know that the course of Tamiflu your doctor prescribes may be expired, and may not have been properly stored. (Not to mention the potential adverse effects of Tamiflu!) Do you still want to take it?

--Michele

Laura, don't forget to look at the rest of the family pics!
http://ziza.ru/2009/07/17/kak_otdykhaju ... _foto.html

thanks eeuunikkeiexpat for keeping us informed of the real nature of this swine flu. but one thing concerns me is the nature of this conversation. you have mentioned, and my sources confirm that this virus has been made in a laboratory - a man made virus. however, no one here (to my knowledge) has asked first of all, why would someone create a new virus? how did it get out of the lab - accidently or intentionally? who did it? and what should the penalty be for such a crime?

these are the questions about the virus that really matter (imho), and is no one asking them? does no one care? or do we assume that human nature is so overwhelmingly good that such a preposterous thing could never occur so its better left ignored?

jon

ps of course the vaccine opens up another can of worms...

Same thing with the anthrax attacks of late 2001. No one has ever been convicted for that though the stuff came from a US lab or was made with classified US technology.

There are also questions about the HIV virus and contaminated vaccines like the polio and hepatitis B from more than three decades back.

Non-psychopaths cannot fully comprehend the minds of the psychopaths in power and are easily manipulated by them to not ask the right questions or made to feel embarrassed by asking them. They can of course also resort to FORCE to shut up or disappear the ones in sensitive positions asking the correct questions.

My take, there is already enough doubt among the public that any mandated vaccine this fall might result in a civil war.

I know I'm new here, and maybe I'm missing some sub-context to the previous few posts, but I just want to chime in here on my initial thoughts on what I'm readying.

First, I haven't been following the news about the flu that closely for the past couple of weeks, but last I heard the the idea that this flu strain is man-made had not been confirmed. Doing some quick digging, the AP reported that the WHO had outright debunked it. I followed a few of the links supporting the idea that it was in fact man-made, but they all turned out to be "truther" sites, also advocating the idea that Obama is a direct puppet of the New World Order and trying to link one of the big pharmaceutical companies with the original Nazis in Germany. I'm not saying that I think it's impossible that this flu is man-made, but if someone has a credible source, I'd be interested in reading it.

As for the HSI article, I'm not really sure what to say. I looked at HSI's website once before when someone sent me a link to an article. Again, I'm not going to say they're outright lying about what they say, all of it seems to have an element of truth, but in much of their writing they use loaded words, logical fallacies, and seem to lack a lot of scientific documentation for the claims they make. It appears that they do offer more detailed reports for some of their findings, but I found I would have to buy them to read them.

So again, I hope this doesn't come off as negative or confrontational, I'm just asking to see if there are any other sources that back up some of the claims being made here.

Michael