Best way to move funds

Postby zulu789 » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:39 am

It seems, from previous postings that there is a lot of obstacles to overcome in order to open a Checking account in Chile.
After reading a lot of postings, i have not yet figured out what will be the best way to transfer funds to Chile.
This is taking in consideration 3 factors:
1) Demonstrate enough solvency in order to obtain Temporary residency
2) Obtain the best exchange rate for U$D.
3) Availability of funds in order to purchase real estate
At the present time i have
Savings and Checking with Bank of America.
Savings and Checking with USAA Bank.
Savings and Checking with HSBC Bank.
Of all these i think the only that have offices in Chile is HSBC ( also seems to have a great presence in Argentina)
Most of my savings are deposited on HSBC.
Would it be possible to transfer any of these accounts to Chile,and most important, the balances in U$D and withdraw funds with checks or debit cards?
Or is this the time to check for the latest designs and colors on money belts.... :)
Any ideas will be appreciated.Thanks
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Postby admin » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:15 am

HSCB will be subject to the same money laundering laws. As you have an account outside the country they may be more willing to transfer money in an account in Chile. As for opening an account in Chile, this may be whole different animal. Every bank we have talked to will not open an account unless you have two things, permanent residency and a credit history. So far, we have not encountered an international bank in Chile that had anything but the logo in common with their parent international bank. For security, they firewall the banks in Chile from the other branches.

That said, if you find HSBC will do it please let us know. It is just a matter of time before some young account rep gets the bright idea to open accounts for expats living in Chile and makes millions.
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Expedition to HSBC

Postby zulu789 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:23 am

Well, after of more than hour spent at the Coral Gables Branch of HSBC, i gathered some Information.

HSBC provide for account holders with more of 50K in different accounts with a service called PREMIER or international banking.
Using this service means that the USA bank will introduce you and streamline the process of opening an acccount in the HSBC bank located in any of the foreign countries affiliated to this program.
Unfortunelly, Chile is not one the countries affiliated to this program.
The Bad news:No deal with Chile.
The good news: Argentina is part of the list, in case someone wants to do business or relocate there (i guess this will go to the "all argentina.net forum LOL).
This link provide list of countrieshttp://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/3/international-services/relocation/overseas.
HSBC have more than 80 offices in Argentina, but only one in Chile, and works as a Private Banking.
The only country in the region that allows you to operate and have accounts in U$D is Uruguay , and only with accounts of more than 1.000.000,00.
So, basically you at the mercy of the bank in Chile ,who will exchange the dollars you sent at some strange rate and give you $CL.
This leave to this conundrum, if my money is sitting on the States how i can prove solvency to Chilean Authorities in order to obtain temporary residency and RUT?
How can i have an Bank Account in Chile to to start paying for things,besides using cash?
Question: Did somebody tried to start a relationship with the Chilean Banks opening a CD or investment account and from there obtain a checking Account?
I noticed that BankBoston offers a Checking account in U$D, but you have to fulfill these requirements: have an account in $CL , resident of Chile,and a business that requires transactions in U$D.
Perhaps ,those of you with more time living there and having business running in Chile can use this option.
Well, over and out for now, this money transfer part is putting a damp in my plans
As always any new ideas or inputs will be greatly appreciated
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HSBC and Chile banking

Postby admin » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:26 am

I seen another international consulting firm recently pull all of their client accounts from HSBC when they went to the 25,000 British pounds in assets in their bank to keep an account. They were fairly publicly pissed with HSBC for raising there requirements on their clients out of the blue.

That is why I have been hesitating to invest the time and effort in to trying to setup services for clients with them, knowning how other international banks in Chile are setup. I figured HSBC could not be legaly structured any diffrently than the others.

That is why Arentina's economy is so fuzzy. It is too easy to put money in to a bank, and from everything we know about it very hard to get it out. Even the world's banking experts got burned by Argentina (IMF and World Bank default).

We have handled a deal inside Chile where the Argentinan recieving the money demanded that we provide them with cash because they refuse to declare the money inside Argentina for fear of loosing it in the banking system. From what we understand they drove it across the boarder in a duffle bag, rather than recieve a wire inside Argentina.

We do know that most banks will let you by CD as a forienger without a lot of paperwork or open a money market acount. However, a money market account in Chile is not like in the States where you can write checks on the account or get an ATM card to go with it.

There is the possiblity of setting up a corporation in Chile with a bank account. The most important thing is that if you are setting up a company just to have a bank account (or as major goal), then start with the bank's legal requirements and work your way back to choosing a coroporate structure that will allow the company to have an account. You really really need a lawyer for this to be done right.
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Postby matttheboy » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:04 pm

You could bring your money in via a "Capitulo 14" using a local stockbroking firm (try LarrainVial for instance). The money is brought in in dollars, exchanged at investment banking rates and held until it needs to be transferred for property purchasing. By bringing your money in via a 'Capitulo 14' it makes it much easier to get an Investor's Visa as it's a specific financial device in Chile aimed at facilitating foreign investment. i.e you brought the money in as an investment in Chile, not just to buy a holiday home for yourself.

I'm not 100% sure that this system is available to the average foreigner wishing to invest here-i did it this way because i have contacts in major financial organisations here (i actually did very little, it was all organised for me-the advantage of having a well connected girlfriend!). I'll see if i can find out whether it was all a bit of a favour for me or whether anyone can invest in this way.

After almost 3 years in Argentina dealing with property and investment, i can tell you that chile is a million times easier and more efficient! Banks work and people cheating you at every turn is the exception rather than the rule....
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Postby SoCal-Lady » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:31 am

I'm a bit confused... the problem is that I'm not very knowleageable about international financial matters. :(

I've been reading various threads in this forum, and so far I've learned that I can buy property in Chile as a foreigner. But just how do I get my money here in the U.S. transferred to Chile?

Say, for example, that I travel to Chile and find an apartment that I'd like to buy. Then what? Let's say that I can withdraw (via ATM) from my account in the U.S. enough funds to pay the downpayment (btw, is there such a thing there?). How do I pay the rest? Does the total balance have to be paid in cash in one lump sum? and how long after the initial payment?

I guess what I'm trying to determine is how to get such a large amount from the U.S. into the hands of the seller in Chile.
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banking and wires

Postby admin » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:54 am

we are mostly talking about day to day banking. When you buy a property in Chile, at the time of the purchase you can wire it directly to the sellers account. In fact, all transactions over $10,000 US must be done through a bank.

As for payments and such, that all depends on your purchase agreement with the seller.

Citi bank will allow you to take out on your credit card to your cash limit over the counter as we understand. We have had a couple of clients buy smaller properties using their ATM and credit cards.
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Re: banking and wires

Postby el kayakista » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:44 pm

admin wrote:we are mostly talking about day to day banking. When you buy a property in Chile, at the time of the purchase you can wire it directly to the sellers account. In fact, all transactions over $10,000 US must be done through a bank.


this is my experience in moving money from one country to another. this is me trying to quarterback the issue. i bought 1 hectares of land with a house on it for about 35K USD. i asked Bank Of America if i can easily wire money from California to Chile. they said yes, but i failed to tell them that i was presently working in Korea. apparently when wiring money, you need to be present in country to sign the wire. so i had to wait until i got home to korea and do a general power of attorney for my parents to sign and send money to my bank account with Banco Estado and have my lawyer in Chile take care of it.

sometimes i wonder how these terrorist are able to move money so easily from one country to another. swiss accounts where you to check online as well?
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banco estado

Postby admin » Tue May 15, 2007 9:38 pm

Banco Estado now tells us that they will accept wire transfers for none account holders, that can be picked up with just your passport for amounts under $10,000 US. Please contact the branch directly that you intend to send it to first, to make sure they will really do this. Typically it needs to be a branch that has an international desk to handle it. For example, Futaleufu can not accept it, but Chaiten will.
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US branch of chilean banks

Postby tombrad2 » Wed May 16, 2007 12:19 am

Haven´t tried to open an account in the USA branch of Bancoi de Chile or Banco de Credito e Inversiones? they have offices in Miami and New York AFAIK and you can easily open an account with only an USD 5,000.00 deposit. With this checkbook you can transfer money at 0 cost
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10k into Chile

Postby MikieO » Wed May 16, 2007 1:52 am

How do they know whether one has 10K or more in cash when travelling through SCL? I've never seen anyone have problem, lots of heresay though.
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