Chile Forum

Laura55llc wrote:

vanman wrote: Bush once looked a bit silly when he tried to open a locked door... Sarah Palin, a sitting governor who worked hard to get there, can see Russia from her porch. If you allow yourself to be manipulated because it's easier than doing some research, don't be surprised if the results are totally different than what you were told they'd be. Regards, Wade

Once looked a bit silly]?????? I think he created a whole market for Youtube, among others.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bush ... Quotes.htm

And about Palin, you can't see Russia from her porch. A little research will tell you she didn't say that.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.


Here were a few comments...I can see Heinz field from my house' think the steelers could try me out as a running back?

I CAN SEE THE OCEAN FROM MY HOUSE! I AM NOW AN OCEANOGRAPHER!

I CAN SEE THE MOON FROM MY HOUSE! I AM NOW AN INTRAGALACTIC POLICY EXPERT SHOULD MARTIANS LAND!

I CAN SEE A PLANE FLY OVER MY HOUSE! I AM NOW AN AVIATION EXPERT!

I can see the highway from my house, now I'm a Traffic Cop.

I can see a construction site, now I am the Capo of the Mafia.

I can see the clouds in the sky, that makes me a Weather Forecaster.

Really, the governors of other states bordering Canada don't automatically have foreign policy experience either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/2 ... 30354.html

See, you're distorting what I'm saying. I didn't say Bush only made one gaffe. What I was doing was comparing 2 similar incidents and how the press covered it. Also, I was pointing out that Obama has very little government experience. Palin was a mayor, the head of a regulatory agency who took on her own party, and a highly respected governor within her own state. She was immediately attacked as having no experience while Obama was given a free pass. Over and over again. I hope he proves to have very sound judgement and does everything right to fix the mess we're in. I'll vote for him next time if he does. But don't kid yourself, he was promoted as the answer to all our problems, not because of a record he could point to, but because he's a great speaker who supports most of the left's platform. Hillary would've been a better choice based on experience.

Sniffing varnish, paint and fresh air, and just a little annoyed at annoying uninformed comments. Sorry. Sick of O'Rielly, Fox, the screaming "MSM is ruining the country" theme, sick of hearing the Fox-ites claim that everything but their network is fair and balance, bored to death of right-wing self-righteousness...and frankly, just a little sick of the crap on other threads, including the Israel=secret spy stuff, sneaking in to pretend to hang pictures to gather intelligence stuff...

Listen, everyone can believe what they want, and say what they want. But I decided, belatedly as a New Years resolution, that I won't sugar coat my thoughts. Varnish, or no varnish. Cristal, or no Cristal.

Obama was given a pass? Maybe you see different media but he was constantly questioned about that.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ob ... ign+policy

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,080,000 for obama foreign policy experience.

If you allow yourself to be manipulated because it's easier than doing some research, don't be surprised if the results are totally different than what you were told they'd be. Regards, Wade

[quote="vanman"]

See, you're distorting what I'm saying. I didn't say Bush only made one gaffe. What I was doing was comparing 2 similar incidents and how the press covered it. Also, I was pointing out that Obama has very little government experience. Palin was a mayor, the head of a regulatory agency who took on her own party, and a highly respected governor within her own state. She was immediately attacked as having no experience while Obama was given a free pass. Over and over again. I hope he proves to have very sound judgement and does everything right to fix the mess we're in. I'll vote for him next time if he does. But don't kid yourself, he was promoted as the answer to all our problems, not because of a record he could point to, but because he's a great speaker who supports most of the left's platform. Hillary would've been a better choice based on experience.[/q

How naive. Palin was a mayor of a small town, ran for gov, and runs a large state for less than two years. Has no experience other than having babies, shooting wild games and learning talking points. Hardly a comparison to someone with Obamas credentials. I think the press was kind to her.

Vicki and Greg Lansen wrote:But of course, anything good happening from now on must be due to GWB.

Vicki and Greg Lansen wrote:But of course, anything good happening from now on must be due to GWB.

Vicki and Greg Lansen wrote:But of course, anything good happening from now on must be due to GWB

Here's one for you. GWB did more for Africans, especially HIV positive ones, than any other president. By a long shot. I'm glad Hussein is gone but I don't think we should have invaded Iraq. It was about the oil. period. You see, I'm not interested in waving a party's flag, I'm interested in truth. And I'm not willing to distort a party's record to either get or keep power. I'm very concerned that the Democrats are wanting a Socialist state. And that the Republicans' greed helped that to happen. So fire away. I can point at great things done by both parties in the past. And bad things too. To hear either side you'd think the other side was always evil. Unfortunately the rancor and divisiveness has balkanised us, fueled by the internet and media. It's both sides, not one, and we are shooting ourselves in the foot. If Obama is the answer, let's hope he truly lives up to the hype.

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:van dude are you MarkF?

Not unless he's done a one-fifty!

Laura55llc wrote:. . . . That should tell you something about today's Republican Party.

That, for my money (what little of it is left after inflation, deficits, and market crashes), is a question more interesting than whether our current president will rise (obviously, he can rise) above his background: how and why did the markedly more progressive, fiscally more responsible, and socially more liberal of our two major political parties change so?

I really don't know. Neither, it seems, does anyone else.

And I'll not clutter the forum with my thoughts, save to say that partisanship seems foolish when one considers both the quality of change possible in political parties and the swiftness with which it can come.

admin wrote:Get out of here. Obama's criminal relations? How many people do you know, or more exactly do not know that you know, that have criminal records? . . . .

Few; and most of those, simply because I've occasionally undertaken criminal defense pro bono (I don't enjoy the practice, as criminal law is too simple to be intellectually challenging and the actions themselves are generally distasteful, but the quality of public defense that most accused receive is pretty low). I suppose my own family to be typical of the American population as a whole -- no criminals in my natal household nor within at least four degrees of kinship -- and still am surprised and saddened when new posters here ask for advice on how to smuggle merchandise into Chile or to defraud the Chilean government through scammed subsidy of real-estate purchases.

CHANGE

These three might form a "special" counsel to the President for alternative solutions:

Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and Cynthia McKinney and then

Jim Rogers, Peter Schiff on economic matters would be a start.

Add this to my earlier list of real proof of change list.

Hey Vanman, good luck! I'd do more than post wise-acre comments, but haven't the time for a proper rebuttal of all the Our-New-Messiah worshipping going on here. That's more like a Saturday "I'm bored and have some time to actually write" sort of activity. And even then, you'll not persuade anyone, it should be done to fulfill other ends of your own, entertainment and pen-sharpening, for example.

BTW, great way to annoy libs: Pronounce the name of the Promised One with a short, nasal "A". Drives 'em nuts, every time, guaranteed. Course, one shouldn't expect a better pronunciation from a bunch of violent, provincial hicks who turn to all sorts of silly things out of bitterness.

Irrelevant Aside: when they hear something they dislike, most of my Chilean friends here locally are starting sentences with "Me permite 15 segundos...." Hillarious.

John Hyre, stirring the pot, but not adding any ingredients.

JHyre wrote:. . . . BTW, great way to annoy libs: Pronounce the name of the Promised One with a short, nasal "A". Drives 'em nuts, every time, guaranteed. . . .

I was taught, as a child long ago, to Anglicize the pronunciation of foreign names borne by non-foreigners, as to retain the foreign pronunciation would be an unkind though subtle way of marking the American bearer of the name as not really American. And, of course, a vowel at the end of an "open" (not closed by a consonant) syllable that receives the emphasis in the word gives its own name to the sound. So, by the rules of pronunciation in English, the president's surname should be pronounced either "OH-bah-mah" (employing the usual "recessive accent" -- emphasis on the first syllable -- of our language) or "oh-BAY-mah" (keeping the foreign emphasis but using standard English formation of the vowel sounds).

You date yourself, RWS. The rules you were taught were part of a culture of assimilation. Now, the cachet is too often with NOT being Merikun (Though to be fair, Obama really IS African-American, unlike most of those who now favor that moniker). Different is good, non-assimilation is good, most especially if your particular brand of "different" screams "Victim!". Also, this way, reporters can display their sophistication by saying "Muenchen", instead of "Munich", etc. Gotta keep us bumpkins on the right path, and all.

In any event, my pronunciation was meant to be annoying, not grammatical. Oh - BAM (like the shot of a gun or the "BAM!" of Adam's West's Batman) - ah.....oh BAM! a.

The Adam West reference likely dates me. For the record, I think he is evil.

John Hyre