Chile Forum

Now this is a funny quote...and contains too much truth, from today's WSJ.

English writer G.K. Chesterton in Illustrated London News, 1924:

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types—the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.

John Hyre

John, when I read that Chesterton quote in WSJ's "Notables and Quotables' yesterday I thought of starting a N & Q thread here, leading with that one - great coincidence!

CA S.,

Yep it's a great one. If we had a thread for quotes, I'd get a lot H.L. Mencken going. But the present format of hijacking threads with quotes seems to be much more fun.

John Hyre

What an unbelievable discussion this Topic “the Obama Administration” as well as other topics on U.S. leadership post carries with the likes of you, such as Vickie and Greg Lansen, Ripsigg, Jhyre and others’ thoughts of current presidential characters.
Vickie you are undoubtedly inept of knowing current U.S. political affairs and know nothing of the true Obama and his right hand V.P. Biden falsehoods. Thus gives understanding of being an ex-patriot.
Ripsigg, you claim to be a Mormon with hatred of the same church leadership> your criticism would call for excommunication. Your “Bohemian Grove” cynicism speaks loudly of being on the verge of stupidity.
Jhyre what is your role in life? “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives”….what you know about the Constitution appears to be self denied for its purpose.
To clear up to date feedback on the Obama Administration for those whom I mentioned herein, I will submit the following opinion of By Dr. Keith Ablow who voices the Obama Administration current dreadful disposition
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/ ... joe-biden/ read it, for it clearly reveals what the current President and his V.P. are voicing today. They have lost creditability to the Nation. Wise up.
This Topic on the Obama Administration seems far off the purpose of the Chile Forum’s focus, that of keeping within the country of Chile interests and local informative topics.

GOTI wrote:What an unbelievable discussion this Topic “the Obama Administration” as well as other topics on U.S. leadership post carries with the likes of you, such as Vickie and Greg Lansen, Ripsigg, Jhyre and others’ thoughts of current presidential characters.
Vickie you are undoubtedly inept of knowing current U.S. political affairs and know nothing of the true Obama and his right hand V.P. Biden falsehoods. Thus gives understanding of being an ex-patriot.
Ripsigg, you claim to be a Mormon with hatred of the same church leadership> your criticism would call for excommunication. Your “Bohemian Grove” cynicism speaks loudly of being on the verge of stupidity.
Jhyre what is your role in life? “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives”….what you know about the Constitution appears to be self denied for its purpose.
To clear up to date feedback on the Obama Administration for those whom I mentioned herein, I will submit the following opinion of By Dr. Keith Ablow who voices the Obama Administration current dreadful disposition
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/ ... joe-biden/ read it, for it clearly reveals what the current President and his V.P. are voicing today. They have lost creditability to the Nation. Wise up.
This Topic on the Obama Administration seems far off the purpose of the Chile Forum’s focus, that of keeping within the country of Chile interests and local informative topics.

Bad John H, bad bad bad ..............

nwdiver wrote:

GOTI wrote:What an unbelievable discussion this Topic “the Obama Administration” as well as other topics on U.S. leadership post carries with the likes of you, such as Vickie and Greg Lansen, Ripsigg, Jhyre and others’ thoughts of current presidential characters.
Vickie you are undoubtedly inept of knowing current U.S. political affairs and know nothing of the true Obama and his right hand V.P. Biden falsehoods. Thus gives understanding of being an ex-patriot.
Ripsigg, you claim to be a Mormon with hatred of the same church leadership> your criticism would call for excommunication. Your “Bohemian Grove” cynicism speaks loudly of being on the verge of stupidity.
Jhyre what is your role in life? “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives”….what you know about the Constitution appears to be self denied for its purpose.
To clear up to date feedback on the Obama Administration for those whom I mentioned herein, I will submit the following opinion of By Dr. Keith Ablow who voices the Obama Administration current dreadful disposition
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/ ... joe-biden/ read it, for it clearly reveals what the current President and his V.P. are voicing today. They have lost creditability to the Nation. Wise up.
This Topic on the Obama Administration seems far off the purpose of the Chile Forum’s focus, that of keeping within the country of Chile interests and local informative topics.

Bad John H, bad bad bad ..............

Opps, strayed into the 'erika zone.

GOTI wrote:Ripsigg, you claim to be a Mormon with hatred of the same church leadership> your criticism would call for excommunication. Your “Bohemian Grove” cynicism speaks loudly of being on the verge of stupidity.
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Does this mean you are going to report me to the Strengthening Church Members Committee?

Anyways, did you see the video I posted? Wilford Woodruff died after meeting with the Bohemian Grovers. That's the truth, but maybe(I assume you are Mormon), you are like typical Mormons and unaware of the history of the church.

FYI: All LDS may be Mormon but not all Mormons are LDS. They can excommunicate me from being LDS but they can't excommunicate me from being Mormon. Understand me? Probably not so let me give you another one: it'd be like the Baptist Church excommunicating someone and telling them they are no longer Christian.

“Not really, yet. Is he an Bohemian Grover? Romney is one. They all seem to love the Bohemian Grove and getting down and dirty. Did you know the Mormon leader who ended polygamy was a Bohemian Grover?

Picture these politicians, all of them, getting together, naked, banging on a drum, and cheering at the the sacrifice on an owl altar and you realize just how freaky they are.”

Ripsigg, your accusation about Rimney or any former Mormon leader being a Bohemian Grover is outrageously ridiculous and without proof. Had you really studied the Book of Mormon and the history of the Church, including the Doctrine and Covenants you would understand. You are a phony period. To belong to such a “Club of secrecies, believing in the Cremation of Care ceremonies as the early Owl Shrine” acts is at best a satanically gesture for you say. You best repent. Nothing further to say.

GOTI, I am presently otherwise occupied, else I'd have a little easy fun at your expense. I find you amusing. If you've read a bit more of what I've written on this site beyond that one quote (admittedly mostly in the Lobby, i.e., nothing to do with Chile but lots to do with having fun at the expense of certain sorts of expats), you'd have a better clue as to where I'm coming from.....and what I do for fun when I am bored with excess time. In the meantime, knock yourself out.

I am curious as to the meaning of:

what you know about the Constitution appears to be self denied for its purpose

And I mean that literally, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Personally, I think you are going to embarrass yourself with the answer.

Bad John H, bad bad bad ..............

NWD....I know, I know. Try as I might, I cannot do anything else. To borrow a thought from Woger Wabbit's Goilfriend, perhaps it's because I'm drawn that way?

John Hyre

Niall Ferguson has allegedly distorted the Obama Administration's record.

Is Niall ferguson's Newsweek attack on Obama 'embarrassing' and 'unethical'?

www.guardian.co.uk/books/shortcuts/2012 ... icle-obama

I think we can all agree that everyone wants health care and "entitled" to it. The question is whom will pay for it.

The real issue is freedom to make our own decisions, about all areas of our lives and not allow someone else to do so. This is what is the difference between real freedom (a constitutional republic and tyranny (communism, marxism).

Governments ALWAYS expand their own powers.
A man/woman who gives up security for freedom loses both.

I don't want to deny health care to anyone. All those who want government health care should have it and the right to pay for it. All those who don't want it should have the right to do as they wish, select their own physicians and pay for their services. I don't want someone to force me to pay for other people's expenses if I don't wish to contribute and I don't want them to pay for mine. That applies in all areas, such as the fact that all American tax payers pay for cell phones along with unemployment benefits,and I could enumerate many more. I prefer to voluntarily donate money to charities whose work I support. The USA is not one of those I feel has a clue as to best to utilize taxpayer funds, as evidenced by the 16 trillion dollars of debt.

It seems that political expediency trumps the separation of Church and State and also diplomatic "even-handedness" in the Palestinian/Israeli dispute.

Obama intervened on platform

www.sfgate.com/news/article/AP-Sources- ... 842395.php