Chile Forum

Rune! If there's noone within earshot, that could go under the "romantic places" thread!

After reading this post I feel compelled to tell my story. Long time reader, first time poster.

I recently moved here to Chile from Maui, Hawaii. Over the last six months I have been preparing for this to happen. I sold my 2 cars, my home, and all my treasured stuff, and my wife and I up and bailed. Reason? Well the writing was on the wall.

I'm sure some of you may have heard of the Amero Dollar, if not just google it. It is the back up currency that was signed into place by the administration and the PM of Canada and even Mexico back in 2005. This is a resolution to basically end the USA as we know it. It forms the North American Union. Note, this won't include your bill of rights like you're used to. It went through under the table, and wasn't brought through the house, congress or the senate, because of its secretive origination from Mr Bush. It was even reported on CNN, but then silenced. You may still be able to see Lou Dobbs from CNN on youtube talking about it.

Anyway, the deal is, if you recall, the first Bush always talked about a New World Order, a totalitarian fascist world rule that is run by the elite bankers. But they wouldnt be able to pull the wool over the rich americans eyes to think outside the constitution and national soveriegnty. So they have to bring us to our knees, and beg for it. This is the same reason they need to have the control of the worlds oil fields in order to do it. Hence the wars. Ever look at a map and see where we are fighting, its so we can put a pipeline into the Caspian sea.

Another fact. in 2005 the USA had about 200k domestic police. Now we have 3 million. I know we had a horrible "terrorist" attack, and my heart goes out to all of the unfortunate. But with that many new cops, I mean really, what are they preparing for?

If you want my prediction. I'll give it. But first, let me just make a couple points. I would love your comments on this. First, I love America. My life in Hawaii was such a blessing, I never would have considered doing this if it didn't seem like a serious threat to my future. It was just obvious to me.

So here you go. This entire thing has been orchestrated for many years, from many different powers of the world. The fallout and bail out that we are witnessing is just the tip of the ice berg. It has the trickle down effect, and this will happen to many of the smaller nations as well as the world as a whole. My predictions are, that the crisis cost the gub between 2-3 trillion dollars for now. Add that to the rediculous defense bill and we get what? Do you think we are adding gold to the federal reserve? There is no value to the dollar, and hasn't been for quite some time. The value is based on oil being bought and sold in US dollars, control of oil creates more demand for the dollar. So we have to print it out of thin air and devalue the dollar to pay wall st. Once it hits it hits continuously and won't be letting up. But once we beg for mercy the same criminals who got us into this mess will be waiting for us to beg for their solution to their problem.

The solution they will be trying to sell us will be a new country run like China, a police state, with central control, and central banks controlling your finances through your RFID chip. If they don't like you, they just turn you off. Military rule will probably hit the states before Bush leaves office. That point is debatable, because he may want to just take the money and run. Like the big time CEOs that got Fannie and Freddy, etc are doing.

These people were put in place by the CFR.org it was formerly run by Dick Cheney, and started by the Rockefellers. They actually pulled off a coup de tat in the good ol USA. BTW, both McCant and Obama are members of that tribe too. Luciferian Zionists. Remember we have a green party, and independant party, a constitutional party, and a libertarian party all with candidates too. Ever wonder why they weren't in the debates?

Before you take a big gasp and write me a nasty reply, open another tab and google the amero dollar, and the New World Order. Then I would love to hear your thoughts.

Plant food! Get your money into tangible assets that you can trade in your community. Like Wine! Try not to drink it all.

My money is all tied up in chicha dollars...


you're preaching to the choir Cash, but do you really think that the PTB will overlook Chile?
My wife's Russian and insists (with some justification) that Russia is about the only hope for a free life. Never thought I'd ever find myself typing that!

Well I am not sure Chile is the best place, but it was on the top of my list. I picked up an atlas and singled out the countries all the way down to my top five. Chile stood as number one, and after being here, it is still number one. Don't get me wrong, we have many awesome places on this planet. But, here you have ag, you have water, you have a big border with Argentina, and a whole lotta ocean. Not to mention very friendly people, and a not yet over stretched economy (as far as I know).

Russia has done well since their rebound, and I hope they do create a safeheaven for freedom seekers. I am reluctant to buy real estate here yet, but I am hoping if all the fit hits the shan, that maybe the expats here in this forum could group up for our own sustainable area. I have learned many ways to contribute. Hope for the best, but be ready for the worst.

Good morning/good evening - You may have heard about Fortis and its potential impact on the Royal Bank of Scotland *wasn't RBS warning everyone months ago in stark terms?* and Bardford & Bingley this morning but here's an article from China that caught my attention. In and of itself nothing all that out of the ordinary, but if it takes hold and there's a sell off the US package won't make much of a difference.

http://www.pekingduck.org/2008/09/china ... s-to-them/

Consider the source, but remember the past! Parallels anyone?
http://www.usagold.com/germannightmare.html

The "hail mary" pass may fail to make a difference:

World Markets Fall on European Banking Concerns
By Howard Schneider and Mary Jordan
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, September 29, 2008; 6:45 AM

Excerpt:

Asian and European markets were down across the board, with indexes in London, Paris, and Germany all experiencing losses close to or in excess of 3 percent. U.S. market futures were also pointing to a sharply lower opening on Wall Street as the first public vote on the rescue package neared.

It was a rude welcome for the bailout plan, as new trouble in the European banking sector raised fresh concerns about the health of financial institutions worldwide.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00271.html

Good news and great timing - Lisa is on her way to Sodimac now to stock up on all sorts of supplies. There is also a local mill, Yale, near Calbuco, that we'll cost compare. I'd like to get infrastructure in place before inflation takes off, and we have a barn for wood storage.

Rescues:

1. Belgium's Fortis,
2. Iceland's Glitnir Bank hf,
3. U.K. mortgage lender Bradford & Bingley Plc and
4. Germany's Hypo Real Estate Holding AG

in the past two days.

admin wrote:We had a very in the know client that is a fairly famous market annalist mention the other day the possibility of riots in the streets in the U.S. also being a very real possibility.

I'm sure everyone has heard about active duty military for domestic enforcement starts October 1. I'll post a link to the Democracy Now report and the original story but this has been posted all over the web-based political spectrum with surprisingly similar concerns about martial law.

Link to YouTube video:
http://wearechangeseattle.org/2008/09/2 ... ons-oct-1/

Here's a link to the Army Times story concerning the brigade to be stationed in the State of Georgia.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/a ... d_090708w/

This thread is starting to scare the hell out of me.

I've read about the New World Order and that stuff before, having an interest in conspiracy theories or what not. I've never believed that those in power would be so stupid as to not have plans on how to maintain that power. I've been reading a Noam Chomsky book (Failed States) lately, and with this thread, too, my faint interest is growing. It seems ludicrous but at the same time, you look around at actions throughout the world over the past 50-60 years, and you can't help but wonder what's going on. Everything is structured.

At least we're in S America, and we'll be in Santiago October 21st!

Hopefully things continue to go well financially for us, as I'd like to bring my parents down in the next few years so they can retire and not work til their 90. I just hope whatever is in their 401ks and property holds value that long so they can cash it out and make the move. My dad refuses to leave the states (even to visit us), but I think with this financial crisis and future implications, and his love of fly fishing, that we shoudl be able to convince him to come down South. Mom is already prepared to pack her bags and come south asap

A question:

If Euroland tanks (like it looks like it will), that's good for the USD abroad, correct? Or at least enough to balance what might happen after this bailout (which I hope doesnt happen, simply because I think it has a zero chance of calming markets or doing anything truly productive). So far all this craziness hasn't slowed down my work in web design and development, i just hope that continues to be the case. I'm going to try to grow a base of Chilean-based clients anyway, even though they'll pay less, as a safety pad incase the sky falls in the US and clients get tight on that side of the equator.

Pretty damn surreal. To think that we could see serious protests, riots, etc on the streets over this bailout and all the other problems in the next weeks/months is just amazing.

Final note, thanks to cashpoor for recommending looking those things up. Found an interesting story about the coup d'etat that almost was under FDR, lead by powerful businessmen, which just planted the seed for a great story I have to write now, after tons of research of course.