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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:43 pm

Yep, exactly the reply I expected with the promise of certain future behaviors.

Oh well, back to more important things.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby el puelche on Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:52 pm

I agree with eeukypat...

Thats not to say I disagree with anyone else but that I don't care...no one really cares, which translates to....no one on the forum will allow what you believe/have stated etc to get in the way of getting to know you or sharing with youabout the life to be found in CHile....until its shoved down our throats...so...

Avoid the Thomas Jefferson Declarations (unless you are Thomas Jefferson) demanding that everyone listen to the facts you found on the internet or read about in the NY Times....simply, it brings the forum members out, and like wild rabid and projectile vomiting HIV monkeys, we will ride on your back...I think that simple starts like...I heard that xyz, or It seems to me that xyz or My experience was xyz and then proceed to a calm conversation...will net better results and as well the members will learn/observe your own hotbuttons...therefore leaving them alone...

The repititious and repeated questions of ignorance illustrate that the member hasn't read the forum for info, was interested enough in the individual POV of other members and not unlike a seven eleven, just want to get out with their slurpeee...this isn't a 7-eleven, if it was I would have been fired a long time ago....

There was an event here in Febuary?...where a rather insistant new member/poster bulldozed into the forum with persistant questions about everything...a little annoying but whatever...then began the alignment of facts in Chilean History according to the new member...really if it had been stated like...I think this and this...everyone would have been ...agreeing or disagreeing and moving on ...but the posts became the chalkboard by which we would all learn off of according to the new member....end of story is that it came down several regular members falling into a blender together over the defense of the new member...nothing came out of it ...and now the poster does not comment on the forum anymore(actually an admirably tenacious and always interesting point of view) and I think that realtions among members is still tender over it...

The forum is not unlike a tavern...a few have been drinking and come in everyday...what would be the point of a passerby to come in and comment on the goings on of the little town? Listening in is fine and then gently stating over a cold beverage an experience or two can go a long way in being accepted....right, left, middle or non-believeing rantings will get you thrown out in the street or worse, hit on the head by a regular or the tavern owner and his busty barmaids....barmaid wrassling could be fun, in fact i remember this time in Valpo, at the Angel's Bar...


p out

Ps: I know that Vicki is a communist tank mechanic but she does it in susch a calm way that it doesn't ire my facist libertarian cabinet making senseabilites....
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:03 pm

Not my decision but what I see happening is:

The relevance of this forum to expats and wannabe expats if this keeps up is now questionable.

Many members besides "outburst" eeuu has voiced their frustrations.

This frustration level will curtail posting or redirect a lot to PM.

I'm fine either way and am proud to have contributed to the database with much on-topic info, insights and wisdom and look forward to meeting some of you.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby MarkF on Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:27 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:I'm fine either way and am proud to have contributed to the database with much on-topic info, insights and wisdom and look forward to meeting some of you.


If this is a "either Mark goes, or I go" proposition, I'll gladly go. You contribute much more than I do. I wouldn't want to be here, and known as the person who drove you away. (Although, we're getting back into what I perceive to be co-dependent behaviors again. I'm being controlled by you, because evidently I control you.).

In an earlier post (and, to some extent in this one) you hinted that the community is threatened, presumably by the notion that, if they have to be careful of leading topics off course by their own comments, everything would be in jeopardy. My first thought was, is the community really that delicate? What's the problem with just the norms of civil society that, in a forum where sensitive (or provocative) topics which are expected to lead to a loss of expected decorum should be avoided?

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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:37 pm

Who said I was leaving and cut the psychoanalysis BS and take a look at yourself and what others have been saying.

Clarification: I am not going even if MarkF's forum behaviors continue sin modification with or without forum structural modifications.

I can say I may pay attention less and let things run whatever course they take, I will use PM more depending on the topic and will hesitate to post info on the public board if it will be worthlessly buried in off-topic discussion and ranting or ambushed with nitpicking side topics.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby admin on Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:28 pm

Ignoring the twins for a moment, I do think spinning a U.S. centric forum might help contain it. Everyone loves to rant about the U.S., no matter what your position, country of origin, political affiliation. That in itself might make an interesting first thread to examine.

Now, options are to start a new forum that will have legs on its own as I see it are:

U.S. politics
-- this would be a containment forum, and I don't like the idea of a whole subforum dedicated to just that. We have a lot of americans on this forum, but I don't want it to become a place where people from other countries and especially Chile might not feel comfortable jumping in with their views.

International politics -- Everything else. I might collapse the south America thread in to this.

Why you came (why you are going) to Chile -- I kind of like this a bit more. It could capture a lot of other things, thus making it more sustainable and place it in context. The sort of problems of the World thread.

other -- does not really say anything.

Any of the above could possibly be created as a sub-lobby forum, if they do not seem to fit sufficiently well with the rest of the forum to warrant its own top level section.

Everyone please give me your thoughts on these possibilities.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby mlightheart on Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:21 pm

I'll take U.S. Politics for $100 Art.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby El Zorro on Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:30 pm

That dates you some, mlightheart. It's been Alex since 1984.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby mlightheart on Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:37 pm

On no Z, you mentioned 1984! You are trying to hijack this thread with your double speak. :twisted:

I thought always thought Art was the Classic version of Jeopardy.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby RWS on Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:10 pm

I'm old enough that I ought to know who Art was, but I'd thought that Alex had been the moderator from the beginning.

(Have we exceeded the three-posting guideline yet? Will we spin off into . . . never-never land . . . ?)
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby admin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:05 am

You see how you people are.

We exceeded the three post guideline about 10 post ago, in about 7 different subjects.

You just can't please even some of the people some of the time. 8_0
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby el puelche on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:25 am

Hey, I'm looking for a good recipe for cooking rabbit, am I in the right forum?....I was thinking about something with an italian flair but pre-mussilinni and not sugary sweet like some UN dishes I've had, any suggestions?


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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:32 am

Stick a fork in that wabbit for me when yer done.
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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby Vicki and Greg Lansen on Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:05 am

el puelche wrote:Ps: I know that Vicki is a communist tank mechanic but she does it in susch a calm way that it doesn't ire my facist libertarian cabinet making senseabilites....
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Heh? PDT_Armataz_01_41


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Re: New Forum Rule Consideration

Postby admin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:32 am

Mrs. V (you all got the memo right about her knew call sign), when my tank breaks down in the Patagonia you will come and fix it right?
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