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THE NEW CHILE FORUM

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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby admin on Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:49 pm

Ghost in the machine. Let me see if I can dig around in the logs and find something going on. Next time it happens, can you send me the details through email contact form on the front of the site with the time, date, and error. It will help me isolate what is going on exactly. Server logs can be big.

As you are getting the message from the forum, that is a sign that the server is fine and the forum is having some issue. I think I might have server restrictions too tight to keep the forum from running away with the processor. I have been letting them up a little at a time to get the best mix of performance and stability.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby RWS on Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:44 pm

I, too, receive such a message frequently, Charles. I'd supposed that the forum would not function (for me, the message usually shows up when I request the server to "find all new posts since last log-in", and it appears no longer than a few minutes each time) because you were working on it and needed exclusive use of the server for a few minutes. Now I guess that I was mistaken.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby RWS on Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:56 pm

Is there a legend on this website for interpretation of the little "icons" that appear to the left of a topic in the index or in search results? Inside of a small circle, one can see an italic "i" (might that indicate that the purpose of the thread is to inform the viewer about a matter connected strictly to the running of the forum?); or horizontal lines (indicating text, I suppose, and thus commentary about the subject matter of the forum?); sometimes with a small, reddish star near the rim of the circle, in its upper-right-hand quadrant (a much-viewed thread?); sometimes with the interior horizontal lines scrolling (the thread currently being viewed?); etc.

An authoritative description of the meanings of these symbols would help.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby Vicki and Greg Lansen on Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:04 am

I also received the same message on a couple of occasions. Also, a couple of posts seemed sent, but never made it. But, alas, it's no loss!

I think the last time was most likely VERY early (like 4 am) in the morning.

Just an FYI

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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby admin on Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:09 am

Thanks that helps. Keep any reports on this problem coming, because it is a bugger of a bug. Until I get this fully tracked down, refresh your browser a few times and it may disappear. I am suspecting there is a database connection problem or a cache problem.

On the documentation thing, I am planning to write a whole new set of documentations for the forum, including new forum rules. Adding a legend for the icons I think is a great idea. A quick reference for new users with the icon next to it would be useful.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby mlightheart on Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:07 am

I also received the unavailable message a few times yesterday I believe. I think it was very late after midnight, but I don't remember exactly when. I will have to note the times.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby mlightheart on Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:11 pm

I got this too the other night:



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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby admin on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:06 am

Yea, thought I smelled a cache. Found some old files that where not being deleted from the cache by the system. I think I got that taken care of now, but still let me know if you have any more of the board not available type warnings.

Please note in the top right hand corner under the search bar field there is a button to "SHOW NEW POSTS". It was driving me crazy not having that button on the new forum, so I added that. Just goes to show, sometimes things that are bugging me about the forum don't get fixed because I think they are not bugging anyone else so why fix it. Please let me know if you have any issues. Chances are you are not the only one.

Found just the coolest and simplest spam bot fix. Thought I might share it with you. I have spent I don't know how many countless hours installing and researching spam bot blockers. Well someone came up with just one nice little line of code that stops about 99% of all bots (for now). Bots are generally written to be as small and fast as possible (those bots work hard after all), and to that end when they fill out registration forms they are set to select the first item in any pull down list in registration forms. Well it turns out that in all time zone lists in the World, the first is a time zone located in the middle of the Pacific where no humans live and thus no human would ever select that time zone. So, with one line of code we get to block most automated spam bots from registering on the forum. Consequently, no more hard to read captcha (the funny letters you have to type when you register to prove you are human) are needed. I still left ours on the registration form, but tunned it so a human can read it. It still does not stop those hard working kids from Indonesia, but the automated bots are about half the battle.

It was just a such a very cool idea. I think the guy that came up with it should get a nobel prize in computer science or something.

So, little by little I am getting everything in order. Please keep in mind that it took me over a year to tweak the last forum to the state it was at, and it was far from perfect. Now I have a completely new system to learn, and I am also expecting a quick series of bug releases from the phpbb group as this the first phpbb3 release to go stable.

I am also waiting for some really really cool plugins for the forum to stabilize. Things like the RSS feed system are just about done, and will allow users to build their own custom RSS feed of forums among other things.

Next on the big project list, once I get everything working here is a complete overhaul of the home page. I just have never been able to figure out what to do with it. Totally open to suggestions. Right now it is just dead.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby thegringoshow on Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:27 am

Great work Charles keep up, I have been telling lots a of people about the forum.

If you need any help with graphics let me know I might be able to help you out with some after this weekend (we are totally revamping our web site at the moment) but we would be more than happy to provide any help we can.

Cheers

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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby admin on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:38 am

First, I think I sorted out the problems with the photo gallery uploads and I have increased the number of photos you can upload on per user basis. Everyone should have 9 mb mas or menos, and I will add more. Please test and report.

There was a problem with permissions requiring me to aprove everyones photo uploads before they would be published. Removed that.

Thanks for the offer. We have an ugly policy. Graphics just lead to attractive web sites. :lol:

No seriously, the forum is kind of actively designed to use super simple graphics. The front template is going to get replaced, but likely by something even simpler (perhaps a bit less ugly). The forum graphics are minimalistic to reduce waisting users time. They know its the Chile Forum after posting 100 times, so I don't really need to impress them with anything flashy. Saves on my bandwidth bill also.

I think our members have flash and graphics fatigue from the standard practices of most Chilean web designers. They take the attitude that a site is not good until it crashes the users browser, the server, and the entire internet backbone with flashy graphics and pop ups (soooooooooo, 1999). Never mind that a web site should actually perform the objective it was created for, say something like providing information. Not against high bandwidth objects on a site, just prefer that they do something say like serve a photo, or provide chat function.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby RWS on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:14 pm

admin wrote:. . . . Bots are generally written to be as small and fast as possible (those bots work hard after all), and to that end when they fill out registration forms they are set to select the first item in any pull down list in registration forms. Well it turns out that in all time zone lists in the World, the first is a time zone located in the middle of the Pacific where no humans live and thus no human would ever select that time zone. So, with one line of code we get to block most automated spam bots from registering on the forum. . . .

'Sounds as though it may also block any actual human being trying to join from Tahiti or Midway or . . . .
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby admin on Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:02 am

It is UTC -12 which is suppose to fall between all the various inhabited islands.

Not that I have anything against Tahiti and Midway, just the probability of them registering on our forum is about 1 in 6 billion anyway. Which annoying one person to eliminate most spam bots I think I could live with. That said, Midway is UTC -11 and Tahiti is UTC -10. Both should be fine. Can anyone else find an Island that is in the UTC -12 time zone? Ships don't count.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby thegringoshow on Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:41 am

UTC−12 is a nautical time zone comprising the high seas between 180°W and 172°30′W longitude. Subtract twelve hours from Coordinated Universal Time to obtain the time for this zone.

All Ships using this time are the last to begin each calendar day. No human habitations are in this time zone. Uninhabited Baker Island and Howland Island (both United States Minor Outlying Islands)are the only landmasses in this time zone.
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby joey on Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:50 pm

Well here it goes , Hi- I am new here and looking for some answers about living in Chile on a Tourist visa, I am buying a home in Chile soon. I go to Chile about every 2 years for 2 months at a time with my friend who is from Chile, but I am not. We are moving there together and do I really have to secure a work visa to live there or will there be problems for me if I stay on a tourist visa as I do not need to work there because I will be taking my savings with me to live off of. Will I need to leave the country every 90 days to renew the tourist visa and is it hard to do and will it be problems at the border for me ? or should I try to get a work visa and is it hard to get one in Chile? I hope someone can answer these questions for me. Thanks - Joey
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Re: THE NEW CHILE FORUM

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:55 pm

SEARCH is your friend.

TRY "Visa Run"
TRY "Tourist Visa" or "Tourist Card"

BTW, I've been living on a rotating tourist card since May 2001. Seems the more stamps you have, the less scrutiny you receive.
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