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I'm out the door!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has any of you heard about the Amero ?[/quote]

I have a picture of one I can scan if you are interested.

yea, I would like to see one.

Here is the picture:



In doing a little more research, even though I received this from someone at the treasury department, it is produced by a private company.

Anyway enjoy

A lot of the stuff floating around on the web has proven to be disinfo or a hoax the most famous of which was Hal Turner (sorry Gene).

The secret coin he claimed to acquire is actually a coin designed by this guy:

http://www.designscomputed<DOT>com/coins/amero.html

Anyways, wikipedia has a good article overview on the subject of NAU and the Amero:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero

IMO, if things get really bad, civil war, disintegration and balkanization would happen in North America not union.

I have somewhat followed the debate on the American Union. I feel that if the economy gets bad enough, we may see a greater push for it. I thought that since I did some quick research, I would point it out.

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:. . . . IMO, if things get really bad, civil war, disintegration and balkanization would happen in North America not union.

I'd agree. The usual tendency is for successful states to become overlarge and overly complex, then shatter, usually along ethnic and geographical lines (the United States, for example, could split into the northeast, southeast, midwest, southwest, Rocky Mountain west, and Pacific northwest). For those interested, in the middle of the last century Carroll Quigley wrote a thoughtful, easily apprehended, but not very simplistic overview of the lifecycles of societies.

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Carroll Quigley!! Historian, Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, revealer of the Anglo-American ruling elite. I'm impressed RWS.

What I see going down would be a crisis where the Federal government initially imposes martial law but this attempt at "order" is quickly seen for the paper tiger it is and then internal strife along economic, racial and religious lines devolve the North American continent into new autonomous regions and city states.

And maybe a return NOT to that failed document called the Constitution but the very American "Articles of Confederation" in a modern, interconnected, information technology dependent world.

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eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:Carroll Quigley!! Historian, Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, revealer of the Anglo-American ruling elite. . . .

And, yes, the man's biases are clearly evident at times, though his writing tends to be more objective than, from what I've heard, his oral teaching was.

What I see going down would be a crisis where the Federal government initially imposes martial law but this attempt at "order" is quickly seen for the paper tiger it is and then internal strife along economic, racial and religious lines devolve the North American continent into new autonomous regions and city states.

Without a clear threat from abroad, I'm quite certain that we'll not suffer anything so obvious as martial law or legal constraint upon movement (of persons -- money might be another matter): American ideals of ordered liberty remain, even if the reality changes somewhat. So Thomas Stearns's slightly acerbic view of the end may yet prove accurate: "not with a bang, but a whimper." (Of course, I remember that another state itching to achieve its desired goals dressed some of its own troops up as soldiers of the neighboring state . . . .*)

And maybe a return NOT to that failed document called the Constitution but the very American "Articles of Confederation" in a modern, interconnected, information technology dependent world.

The Articles were good, save for adjustment of disputes between States and for protection from "the common enemy". In the equally -- or more -- dangerous world of the present (does any AllChilean really think that communist China aims only at worldwide economic dominance?), not only American powers that be but some European ones would not care to see the North American counterbalance disappear. My thought's that only in lesser (in economic and military power, and in location) states, such as Chile and its neighbors, can the ideals of individual yet "ordered" liberty which actuated our colonial and Revolutionary American forebears be reified.

But we may soon enough see just precisely how our natal society disappears. I doubt that the the quarter-millenary of the American Revolution will be celebrated in land bearing any resemblance beyond the superficial to the land of our birth.


*In case I've been too obscure: late summer, 1939, central Europe.

I'm quite certain that we'll not suffer anything so obvious as martial law or legal constraint upon movement (of persons -- money might be another matter)

I am curious how we know the difference between the current situation and martial law, less perhaps the tanks on the corner.

Most of the bill of rights, and the other parts of the constitutional guarantees have already been removed.