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What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Anything at all (keep it clean) goes here that does not fit in to any of the other forums.

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Your Expection for the Chilean Peso rate through July 2008

550
2
8%
540
4
17%
530
4
17%
520
3
13%
510
1
4%
500
3
13%
490
2
8%
480
1
4%
475
3
13%
450
0
No votes
440
0
No votes
430
0
No votes
420
0
No votes
410
0
No votes
400
0
No votes
390
0
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380
0
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350
0
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300
0
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1 to 1
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Total votes : 23

Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby otravers on Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:39 pm

I don't know about its price against the CLP, but at some point the USD will have to bounce back against the EUR. I wouldn't be surprised at seeing it return to parity within 5 years. Look up "Italy trash" on Youtube to have a graphic display of why the Euro at its current price is a joke. The whole Euro zone can't piggy back Germany forever when half its members are limping economically at best.

Next Central Bank meeting in Chile is next Thursday. Maybe they'll lower interest rates just a bit to help non-copper exporters, in which case the dollar might bounce back a bit.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:04 pm

http://www.zealllc.com/2008/realusdx.htm

Since July 2001 our current dollar bear has bled 39.2%. This may seem extreme, but the USDX lost 52.4% in its last secular bear ending in September 1992. A similar loss in our current bear would yield a USDX level of 57.5! Ouch. This is another 22% lower from today’s all-time dollar lows! So in light of historical precedent, there is plenty of room for the USDX to continue falling even from here.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby RWS on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:34 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:"There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" the one liner economic wisdom of the ages. :mrgreen:

Thanks, EE.UU.; got it.

Perhaps all could be boiled down to "TU": "the usual". However, in Chile . . . .
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:23 am

Buy land, they're not making it anymore



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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby Excalibur on Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:22 pm

admin wrote:
Buy land, they're not making it anymore



Some economic advice from Mark Twain


That is a very sound advise and, luckily for us, Chile has got quite a bit of beautiful land to offer, up and
down the country.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:20 pm

Live rates at 2008.03.10 20:17:30 UTC
Chile Pesos United States Dollars
1 CLP = 0.00225204 USD 1 USD = 444.043 CLP


and $107 for a barrel of oil. Got Milk?
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:28 pm

admin wrote:
... and $107 for a barrel of oil. Got Milk?

No (that powdered stuff don't count) but I do have some cheap (but not necessarily inferior quality) Chilean booze to kill the pain. :mrgreen:
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:58 pm

At least pisco is still cheaper than a gallon of gas in Chile or U.S.

I make motion that we all switch to using pisco.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby Vicki and Greg Lansen on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:25 pm

I'd rather walk. :mrgreen:
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:43 am

Depends what you do with the Pisco. Too much, and you won't be walking or driving.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:24 pm

8_0 :boom: :frighten: 1 USD = 435.098 CLP

The horror !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I can not even get my money out of the States sufficiently fast before getting clobbered by the overnight exchange rate.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby eeuunikkeiexpat on Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:39 pm

xe.com reports

432.350

So what kind of prize will the three folks who voted for 400:1 receive? :mrgreen:

topic1037.html


EDIT: Now the xe.com price matches the previous post at 435.098
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:30 pm

I got a report it hit 429 intra day off of bloomberg. I can not even keep up with the drop. The US fed dog and pony show of 200 billion injection is not helping. There is a related article I just quoted in another thread stating that investment in Chile almost doubled in 2007, mostly from international companies reinvesting their profits back in to Chile, rather than taking them out in to other risky currencies. I know I do. It is a cold cruel world out there. Better to stay close to home (well, our new home anyway).

Chile's Peso Falls From Decade High on U.S. Growth Concern

By Andrea Jaramillo

March 12 (Bloomberg) -- Chile's peso fell from a decade high on speculation the U.S. economic slowdown will reduce demand for developing nations' commodity exports.

The currency halted an 11-day advance on concern the U.S. Federal Reserve's plan to lend as much as $200 billion of Treasuries in exchange for debt including private mortgage- backed securities won't stave off a recession in the world's biggest economy.

``Markets overreacted yesterday with the Fed's announcement,'' said Bertrand Delgado, a Latin America economist at IDEAglobal Inc., a New York-based research firm. ``It's good news, but that doesn't mean the crisis is over. The peso will likely begin to reach a plateau as prices of commodities such as copper start to stabilize.''

Chile's peso dropped 0.3 percent to 431.02 per dollar at 12:59 p.m. New York time, from 429.55 yesterday, when it reached 427.40 per dollar, the strongest since November 1997. The peso's 15 percent gain against the dollar this year is the biggest among 26 emerging-market currencies tracked by Bloomberg.

The yield on Chile's 6 percent bonds due in March 2017 was little changed at 6.51 percent, according to Bloomberg data.

The price of copper, Chile's biggest export, has advanced 25 percent this year.

Bets the Fed will cut borrowing costs further is prompting gains in the Colombian peso, according to Alvaro Camaro, chief analyst at Stanford Financial Group's unit in Bogota.

`Peso's Move'

``It's clear the Fed will continue cutting rates, and the expectation of a widening spread remains a big part of the peso's move,'' said Camaro.

Futures contracts on the Chicago Board of Trade indicate traders see a 70 percent chance the Fed will lower its 3 percent target lending rate by three-quarters of a percentage point at its meeting next week. The balance of bets is for a cut of a half-percentage point. The U.S. central bank has reduced the benchmark rate 2.25 percentage points since September.

Colombia's peso rose for a fourth straight day, gaining 0.8 percent to 1,848 per dollar, from 1,864 yesterday, according to the Colombian foreign-exchange electronic transactions system, known as SET-FX.

The 6.75 percent rate difference between Colombian and U.S. benchmark lending rates is the widest in six years, luring capital into Colombia's bonds and equities.

The yield on Colombia's benchmark 11 percent bond due in July 2020 rose 3 basis points, or 0.03 percentage point, to 11.49 percent, according to Colombia's stock exchange. The bond's price fell 0.201 centavo to 96.693 centavos.

Peru, Argentina

Peru's sol fell 0.1 percent to 2.811 per dollar, from 2.809 yesterday. The yield on the nation's 8.6 percent sol-denominated bonds due in August 2017 was little changed at 6.55 percent, according to Interbank SA.

The yield on Argentina's 5.83 percent inflation-linked peso bonds due in December 2033 fell 9 basis points to 8.94 percent, according to Citigroup Inc.'s unit in Argentina. The peso rose 0.06 percent to 3.1510 per dollar, from 3.1528 yesterday.

Venezuela's bolivar rose 5.4 percent to 4.35 per dollar in the unregulated market from 4.6 yesterday, traders said. The government pegs its currency at an official exchange rate of 2.15 per dollar under restrictions imposed in 2003. Venezuelans turn to the parallel market when they can't get approval from the government's Foreign Exchange Administration Commission to buy dollars at the official rate.



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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby admin on Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:43 pm

winners of the last poll, get the chance to vote on the new one I just started on the first page of this thread. This time I gave few more options, and you also have the chance to change your vote as the news changes if you like. It would be nice to see trends in peoples view of the exchange rate. The poll will run for 100 days, as all of 2008 I believe is a little long with such a fast moving currnency.
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Re: What will 2008 Bring PART II ( Chile Peso Exchange Rate )?

Postby RWS on Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:05 pm

Rather than comment on sickening economic reality, I'll post about the superficial:

Wow, our little purple friend certainly is chipper these days!
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