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Re: The State of the States

Postby mlightheart on Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:27 pm

I saw this excerpt from Lee Iacocca's book: Where Have All the Leaders Gone?

Though the book was release in April 2007, it has just come to my attention. It seemed appropriate to this thread.

I will just post the link and not paste the excerpt here.

http://www.bordersstores.com/features/f ... eadersgone

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updated:
I am glad that Charles posted the excerpt below. The link above might be gone in the future.
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Re: The State of the States

Postby el puelche on Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:41 pm

That is hot.

p out.

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Re: The State of the States

Postby admin on Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:28 am

I think this falls under fair use. At least I hope Lee will forgive me for outright poaching this, as I will be encouraging everyone to please buy a copy of the book. I know it is on my reading list.


Excerpt
Where Have All the Leaders Gone?

By Lee Iacocca with Catherine Whitney

I
Had Enough?

Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course."

Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!

You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore. The President of the United States is given a free pass to ignore the Constitution, tap our phones, and lead us to war on a pack of lies. Congress responds to record deficits by passing a huge tax cut for the wealthy (thanks, but I don't need it). The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving pom-poms instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of America my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?

I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have.

My friends tell me to calm down. They say, "Lee, you're eighty-two years old. Leave the rage to the young people." I'd love to—as soon as I can pry them away from their iPods for five seconds and get them to pay attention. I'm going to speak up because it's my patriotic duty. I think people will listen to me. They say I have a reputation as a straight shooter. So I'll tell you how I see it, and it's not pretty, but at least it's real. I'm hoping to strike a nerve in those young folks who say they don't vote because they don't trust politicians to represent their interests. Hey, America, wake up. These guys work for us.

Who Are These Guys, Anyway?

Why are we in this mess? How did we end up with this crowd in Washington? Well, we voted for them—or at least some of us did. But I'll tell you what we didn't do. We didn't agree to suspend the Constitution. We didn't agree to stop asking questions or demanding answers. Some of us are sick and tired of people who call free speech treason. Where I come from that's a dictatorship, not a democracy.

And don't tell me it's all the fault of right-wing Republicans or liberal Democrats. That's an intellectually lazy argument, and it's part of the reason we're in this stew. We're not just a nation of factions. We're a people. We share common principles and ideals. And we rise and fall together.

Where are the voices of leaders who can inspire us to action and make us stand taller? What happened to the strong and resolute party of Lincoln? What happened to the courageous, populist party of FDR and Truman? There was a time in this country when the voices of great leaders lifted us up and made us want to do better. Where have all the leaders gone?

The Test of a Leader

I've never been Commander in Chief, but I've been a CEO. I understand a few things about leadership at the top. I've figured out nine points—not ten (I don't want people accusing me of thinking I'm Moses). I call them the "Nine Cs of Leadership." They're not fancy or complicated. Just clear, obvious qualities that every true leader should have. We should look at how the current administration stacks up. Like it or not, this crew is going to be around until January 2009. Maybe we can learn something before we go to the polls in 2008. Then let's be sure we use the leadership test to screen the candidates who say they want to run the country. It's up to us to choose wisely.

So, here's my C list:

A leader has to show CURIOSITY. He has to listen to people outside of the "Yes, sir" crowd in his inner circle. He has to read voraciously, because the world is a big, complicated place. George W. Bush brags about never reading a newspaper. "I just scan the headlines," he says. Am I hearing this right? He's the President of the United States and he never reads a newspaper? Thomas Jefferson once said, "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate for a moment to prefer the latter." Bush disagrees. As long as he gets his daily hour in the gym, with Fox News piped through the sound system, he's ready to go.

If a leader never steps outside his comfort zone to hear different ideas, he grows stale. If he doesn't put his beliefs to the test, how does he know he's right? The inability to listen is a form of arrogance. It means either you think you already know it all, or you just don't care. Before the 2006 election, George Bush made a big point of saying he didn't listen to the polls. Yeah, that's what they all say when the polls stink. But maybe he should have listened, because 70 percent of the people were saying he was on the wrong track. It took a "thumping" on election day to wake him up, but even then you got the feeling he wasn't listening so much as he was calculating how to do a better job of convincing everyone he was right.

A leader has to be CREATIVE, go out on a limb, be willing to try something different. You know, think outside the box. George Bush prides himself on never changing, even as the world around him is spinning out of control. God forbid someone should accuse him of flip-flopping. There's a disturbingly messianic fervor to his certainty. Senator Joe Biden recalled a conversation he had with Bush a few months after our troops marched into Baghdad. Joe was in the Oval Office outlining his concerns to the President—the explosive mix of Shiite and Sunni, the disbanded Iraqi army, the problems securing the oil fields. "The President was serene," Joe recalled. "He told me he was sure that we were on the right course and that all would be well. 'Mr. President,' I finally said, 'how can you be so sure when you don't yet know all the facts?'" Bush then reached over and put a steadying hand on Joe's shoulder. "My instincts," he said. "My instincts." Joe was flabbergasted. He told Bush, "Mr. President, your instincts aren't good enough." Joe Biden sure didn't think the matter was settled. And, as we all know now, it wasn't.

Leadership is all about managing change—whether you're leading a company or leading a country. Things change, and you get creative. You adapt. Maybe Bush was absent the day they covered that at Harvard Business School.

A leader has to COMMUNICATE. I'm not talking about running off at the mouth or spouting sound bites. I'm talking about facing reality and telling the truth. Nobody in the current administration seems to know how to talk straight anymore. Instead, they spend most of their time trying to convince us that things are not really as bad as they seem. I don't know if it's denial or dishonesty, but it can start to drive you crazy after a while. Communication has to start with telling the truth, even when it's painful. The war in Iraq has been, among other things, a grand failure of communication. Bush is like the boy who didn't cry wolf when the wolf was at the door. After years of being told that all is well, even as the casualties and chaos mount, we've stopped listening to him.

A leader has to be a person of CHARACTER. That means knowing the difference between right and wrong and having the guts to do the right thing. Abraham Lincoln once said, "If you want to test a man's character, give him power." George Bush has a lot of power. What does it say about his character? Bush has shown a willingness to take bold action on the world stage because he has the power, but he shows little regard for the grievous consequences. He has sent our troops (not to mention hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens) to their deaths—for what? To build our oil reserves? To avenge his daddy because Saddam Hussein once tried to have him killed? To show his daddy he's tougher? The motivations behind the war in Iraq are questionable, and the execution of the war has been a disaster. A man of character does not ask a single soldier to die for a failed policy.

A leader must have COURAGE. I'm talking about balls. (That even goes for female leaders.) Swagger isn't courage. Tough talk isn't courage. George Bush comes from a blue-blooded Connecticut family, but he likes to talk like a cowboy. You know, My gun is bigger than your gun. Courage in the twenty-first century doesn't mean posturing and bravado. Courage is a commitment to sit down at the negotiating table and talk.

If you're a politician, courage means taking a position even when you know it will cost you votes. Bush can't even make a public appearance unless the audience has been handpicked and sanitized. He did a series of so-called town hall meetings last year, in auditoriums packed with his most devoted fans. The questions were all softballs.

To be a leader you've got to have CONVICTION—a fire in your belly. You've got to have passion. You've got to really want to get something done. How do you measure fire in the belly? Bush has set the all-time record for number of vacation days taken by a U.S. President—four hundred and counting. He'd rather clear brush on his ranch than immerse himself in the business of governing. He even told an interviewer that the high point of his presidency so far was catching a seven-and-a-half-pound perch in his hand-stocked lake.

It's no better on Capitol Hill. Congress was in session only ninety-seven days in 2006. That's eleven days less than the record set in 1948, when President Harry Truman coined the term do-nothing Congress. Most people would expect to be fired if they worked so little and had nothing to show for it. But Congress managed to find the time to vote itself a raise. Now, that's not leadership.

A leader should have CHARISMA. I'm not talking about being flashy. Charisma is the quality that makes people want to follow you. It's the ability to inspire. People follow a leader because they trust him. That's my definition of charisma. Maybe George Bush is a great guy to hang out with at a barbecue or a ball game. But put him at a global summit where the future of our planet is at stake, and he doesn't look very presidential. Those frat-boy pranks and the kidding around he enjoys so much don't go over that well with world leaders. Just ask German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who received an unwelcome shoulder massage from our President at a G-8 Summit. When he came up behind her and started squeezing, I thought she was going to go right through the roof.

A leader has to be COMPETENT. That seems obvious, doesn't it? You've got to know what you're doing. More important than that, you've got to surround yourself with people who know what they're doing. Bush brags about being our first MBA President. Does that make him competent? Well, let's see. Thanks to our first MBA President, we've got the largest deficit in history, Social Security is on life support, and we've run up a half-a-trillion-dollar price tag (so far) in Iraq. And that's just for starters. A leader has to be a problem solver, and the biggest problems we face as a nation seem to be on the back burner.

You can't be a leader if you don't have COMMON SENSE. I call this Charlie Beacham's rule. When I was a young guy just starting out in the car business, one of my first jobs was as Ford's zone manager in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. My boss was a guy named Charlie Beacham, who was the East Coast regional manager. Charlie was a big Southerner, with a warm drawl, a huge smile, and a core of steel. Charlie used to tell me, "Remember, Lee, the only thing you've got going for you as a human being is your ability to reason and your common sense. If you don't know a dip of horseshit from a dip of vanilla ice cream, you'll never make it." George Bush doesn't have common sense. He just has a lot of sound bites. You know—Mr.they'll-welcome-us-as-liberators-no-child-left-behind-heck-of-a-job-Brownie-mission-accomplished Bush.

Former President Bill Clinton once said, "I grew up in an alcoholic home. I spent half my childhood trying to get into the reality-based world—and I like it here."

I think our current President should visit the real world once in a while.

The Biggest C is Crisis

Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.

On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. Where was George Bush? He was reading a story about a pet goat to kids in Florida when he heard about the attacks. He kept sitting there for twenty minutes with a baffled look on his face. It's all on tape. You can see it for yourself. Then, instead of taking the quickest route back to Washington and immediately going on the air to reassure the panicked people of this country, he decided it wasn't safe to return to the White House. He basically went into hiding for the day—and he told Vice President Dick Cheney to stay put in his bunker. We were all frozen in front of our TVs, scared out of our wits, waiting for our leaders to tell us that we were going to be okay, and there was nobody home. It took Bush a couple of days to get his bearings and devise the right photo op at Ground Zero.

That was George Bush's moment of truth, and he was paralyzed. And what did he do when he'd regained his composure? He led us down the road to Iraq—a road his own father had considered disastrous when he was President. But Bush didn't listen to Daddy. He listened to a higher father. He prides himself on being faith based, not reality based. If that doesn't scare the crap out of you, I don't know what will.

A Hell of a Mess

So here's where we stand. We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country. We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia, while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble. Our borders are like sieves. The middle class is being squeezed every which way. These are times that cry out for leadership.

But when you look around, you've got to ask: "Where have all the leaders gone?" Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, competence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.

Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.

Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane, or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm. Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.

Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when "the Big Three" referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen—and more important, what are we going to do about it?

Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debt, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bobblehead on Fox News will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?

Had Enough?

Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope. I believe in America. In my lifetime I've had the privilege of living through some of America's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises—the Great Depression, World War II, the Korean War, the Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War, the 1970s oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11. If I've learned one thing, it's this: You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a call to action for people who, like me, believe in America. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the horseshit and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we've had enough.
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Re: The State of the States

Postby admin on Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:13 am

I have been recently watching the series "John Adams". The whole time, I just keep thinking to myself how the revolution was based on far fewer grievances and much more minor complaints against the crown.

Doing my taxes this year a few of the more fun highlights from my research:

    Total hours estimated by the IRS to learn and prepare the documents I am required to file according to the IRS exceeds over 500 hours (I quit counting at that point), and I really don't make that much money. The funny thing is because of the unique nature of my tax status, I am not required to pay any taxes. That is just the paperwork I have to do to prove that I don't owe them any money. Essentially it is more cost effective for me to pay them a whole bunch of money I don't owe, just to be able to fill out less forms. By the way, my Chilean taxes this year took all of about 10 mins to complete.

    Many of the forms you are required to file, even if you do not intentionally or willingly fail to file them could result in $10,000 fines to start and potentially jail time.

    If you as much as shake hands or node the wrong way with someone in another country, you need to file a foreign partnership declaration (I believe their estimate was 57 hours each, with a $10,000 fine) for each partnership.

    any and all accounts, investments, ownerships in foreign companies including simply passive investments of more than 10% must be declared (again forms estimated to take over 80 hours in addition to any partnerships).

    If you do not file a tax return each year that you are outside the United States, the statute of limitations does not apply even for years that you do not have any income. That is right, report in, or they can come after you any time they like for as long as they like. Experts recommend that you file even just a blank return each year even to just kick in the statute of limitations.

    Even if you give up your citizenship, the IRS will now tax you for at least 10 years after giving it up.

    There is a new policy to enforce this also around the world by planting more IRS agents in U.S. embassies to conduct more audits and investigations.


Most of these have been put in to effect, or the enforcement of them has been made a high priority just in the last 2 years.

I came across extensive discussion by tax experts and scholars regarding the nature of the information they are requesting also. Most of the information requested has nothing to do with determining your tax liability, but gathering information about your activities and associates.

The funny things is, after examining some of the most recent publications and laws passed, I am almost 99% certain terrorist anywhere in the World are allowed to launder their money in the United States tax free and may be eligible for credits, deductions, and rebates on all their international activities and expenses (e.g. those IDE's in Iraq are tax deductible). U.S. citizens are not so lucky.
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Re: The State of the States

Postby MikieO on Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:08 am

Interesting that you mention the Revolutionary War, here's a pretty good article on the whys, hows and outcomes. The push/pull between the real leaders and those who want to control the money supply has been going on forever. Real leaders are shot or poisoned it would seem. Bush being neither of the above is quite safe.

http://goldnews.bullionvault.com/US_cen ... _102320072

Colonial America
In order to pay debts incurred from the Seven Years War with France, King George III of England sought to heavily tax the colonies in America

I wonder what George's middle initial was? :)
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Re: The State of the States

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Re: The State of the States

Postby mlightheart on Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:52 pm

Interesting links. Kind of depressing though.
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Re: The State of the States

Postby admin on Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:15 pm

from one of my favorite computer geek sites slashdot.org regarding searching laptops at the boarders:
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/22/1733251
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Re: The State of the States

Postby MikieO on Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:58 pm

IMO kiddie will be the way they force through laws censoring the net. First amendment rights will be severely curtailed when that happens.
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Re: The State of the States food shortages in the U.S.

Postby admin on Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:57 pm

I see today there a signs forming of food shortages in the United States, not just in the developing world:


This bit about sam's club limiting rice sales:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/w ... t=hplatest

and this bit on npr about food banks and food stamps:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=89871122

That is in conjunction with the running reports from the U.N. summit on the topic.

Being out of your 5 bedroom, 3 bath home in the suburbs because your mortgage is too high is one thing, running out of food is whole new level of low. Starting to look more like the issues of the depression on every front.
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Re: The State of the States

Postby JHyre on Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:39 am

Just bought 5lb filet mignon for $6.88/pound at Carfagna's Italian Grocery, along with chorizo for some weekend Tapas. Will hit Sam's today for Manchego at about $9.99/lb, about half of what it goes for elsewhere. Seeing as how I'm not looking to buy more than 240 pounds of rice (each of the bags in question is 80 lbs), I'm not feeling the dire shortages or the evidently pending depression. Maybe if I'm lucky, I can witness, or even start, a hot-pockets food riot at Sam's - who eats those, anyway, yuck! Ethanol idiocy (you know when Democrats & Republicans overwhelmingly agree on something, in this case to kiss farmer & ADM buttocks, the country is in big trouble), inflation & weak dollar are causing rising prices for certain.....but shortages & depression? Hah! Pttooooey! So as it started, so it continues, suffice it to say, Charles & I have rather different views of the magnitude of issues here in Amerika, the Evil Empire, or whatever the expat crowd is calling it these days. There's as much spin here as Walter Cronkite's "reporting" on Tet, or the modern-day analogue in Iraq.

John Hyre

PS: We will see shortages once government moves to "fix" things. The idiots destroyed mass amounts of food in the 30's, at the same time malnutrition was rampant, for politcally farmer-driven purposes, sound familiar? The effects showed up in the number of 4F's in the 1940's. To see how little things have changed, take a look at sugar policy, especially as "guided" by Fanjuls. This, as we prepare to elect Jimmy Carter with melanin, while the real McCoy is out promoting Hamas. Time to drink again....though Scotch HAS gone up a bit, now there's a reason to fret & riot....
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Re: The State of the States

Postby MikieO on Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:31 am

J Hyre, with the problems Ohio is facing, does your deli provide an armed escort to help you get home with that filet mignon?
I'd imagine that the local KFC will soon be under siege if the stories in the news continue to run. :)
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Re: The State of the States

Postby JHyre on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:00 pm

Warding off thugs in Ohio (or in dim Michigan, our rivals to the North) is easy, to wit:

Thug: "Gimmie your money now or eat lead, yuppie-boy".

John: "According to your union contract, pointing firearms is someone else's job, for which they should be immediately summoned and paid for a minimum of 4 hours at OT rates + piecework bonus, after checking with OSHA, assuming they have the seniority to bump others from the work. You wouldn't want to be a SCAB, would you?"

Works every time.

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Re: The State of the States

Postby MikieO on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:10 pm

Even that will soon be outsourced. (and scripted)
"'Ullo meester Hyre, I see you have some verry good looking meat there, innit? Pardon me for saying so but you will uff to givvit up, innit? Please to be 'anding it over vit the minimum of fuss and I vill be on my vay. sorry to be bothering you.. . Avvaniceday sir"
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Re: The State of the States

Postby admin on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:31 pm

Perhaps depression is a bit strong. Lets call it depression like...

Still, I have never seen anyone before begging for a job on a bus in Las Vegas. You know one of the fastest growing cities in America for over the last 10 years, recession proof economy, grows more when the rest of the economy is down, where people with 8th grade educations can go to get a job that pays over $100,000 a year.

I seen people asking other people on the bus if there was any jobs where they worked twice in one week last time I was there. While the republicans are still working on what not to call it, the country is imploding in too many ways to count.
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