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I thought it was a legal requirement to get your carnet/RUN when becoming a temporary resident along with registering with the local pacos?

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:I thought it was a legal requirement to get your carnet/RUN when becoming a temporary resident along with registering with the local pacos?

Not that I know of. I just went to the local station with my passport and the rental contract. Collected the residency certificate the same afternoon. No RUT, no questions, very easy.

Also got my RUT this morning, so I have the provisional slip of paper from SII, and the card should arrive in 1.5 months. Again, just arrive with passport, fill out form 4415, hand it in after a little discussion about my mother's maiden name, and that was it. I also picked up 2 years worth of unpaid tax bills on a site I have near Valdivia.

Extranjeria is a completely different order of difficulty. I had a look in there a few months ago, and after seeing the size of the queue I looked back out fairly quickly. However it appears that you can take the form home ("Solicitud de residencia temporaria por correo"), fill it out and send it in with the necessary documentation by post, which sounds a lot less painful. But I think I'll leave this until I'm not traveling in and out of the country so often.

Frank,

I'm confused. Are you a tourist, temporary resident or permanent resident?

If you have two years of unpaid taxes, why did you need to get a new RUT?

If not a resident of any flavor, what is this residency certificate you picked up and at what (sort of) station?

Color me confused or clueless ...

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:Frank,

I'm confused. Are you a tourist, temporary resident or permanent resident?

If you have two years of unpaid taxes, why did you need to get a new RUT?

If not a resident of any flavor, what is this residency certificate you picked up and at what (sort of) station?

Color me confused or clueless ...

No problem I'm in the process of moving from tourist through temporary resident to eventually permanent resident, with no time constraints. We got here in March, rented an apartment (in my name), and I started the procedure of discovering what I needed to do to become a resident (this was long before I discovered this forum, which would have saved a lot of wandering in circles...). Anyway, I stopped by Extranjeria, picked up the application form and was told I needed to get a residency certificate as part of the procedure (it's mentioned in section 5 of the form as well). So, off to the local cop-shop, got the certificate just by showing my passport and rental contract, but as I've been in and out of the country twice since March, with more trips looming, I haven't proceeded any further. So I guess I'm in limbo., which is very comfortable. I did pick up my RUT today, but this is because I want to open a bank account and having a RUT should at least make this a bit easier.

As for taxes, I've owned a small site near Valdivia since 10 years or so, which I bought on one of many visits to the area, and it has been through about 6-7 years of "saneamiento" before I can finally consider it to be mine. Since my "fundo" has been sanitised (translation?), Bienes y Raices has been sending my property tax bills to my mother-in-law's place in Valdivia, where apart from the first few which I managed to pay, they've been patiently waiting for me all this time It looks like I should have been given a RUT when I bought the site, and indeed there is a RUT on my tax bills, but I understand it's a make-believe one. It has only 6 digits plus the "digito verificador". Don't know how they do it, but there you are...

So, it's all clear now?

That explains some things.

By getting the residency certificate, by default you have already registered to a degree with the local police.

Regarding the RUT, isn't it a RUN you need for a bank account? From everything written on this forum and others, the non resident obtained RUT will not get you anywhere in regards to opening bank accounts as it's just a tax number and not the nationwide ID/carnet number which chilenos like to confuse extranjeros with using the term RUT when they actually mean RUN.

I would be paranoid about the bureaucracy involved in getting your new RUT squared with the tax bills that was sent under a made up number.

Good luck in your adventures.

I opened a barebones current account at BCI with just a RUT. They gave me something that I'm not entirely sure yet whether it's just an ATM card or a debit card. It's written Redcompra and Visa Electron on it but has no expiration date, I've yet to try to make a purchase in a store with it.

So you did not show a Chile carnet in order to get the BCI account?

If this is true, I'm headed to the tax office and then the local BCI branch this week.

>So you did not show a Chile carnet in order to get the BCI account?

That's correct, as I don't have one. I showed my passport and RUT and that's it.

This this a perfect example of the round room theory....I honestly do not think nor can I concievabley believe that this has always been available and all of us working on it have not found it.....or rather..it has always been available but buried beneath the chilean strata of buearocracy it has not come to light until now to the authorities that be.....my guess is that recently somehow or some way the banking industry has been made aware through ....a convention, press release or some one bank type that decided to really do their job and was willing to get to the bottom of it all for some gringo client(most likely the gringo has no idea this forum exists) and the word/info of how to do it has spread and shown profitable...

Remember that no official in CHile will stick his/her head out where it could get chopped off at worse or simply reprimanded in the least...for the bank to make a move like this...means that from all levels it is approved and will be applauded for the benefit the employee will bring to the bank...this shows an official and sanctioned move by government and/or the bank to move forward in an area that is seen as legal and of great benefit($$$)..until or if, some misappropiated scandal hits the deal and shuts it down....this is major and not an accident nor is it the part of some rogue un-informed bank employee or mis-guided policy...


p out.

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I have to insist though that they opened the most basic of accounts and gave me the most basic of payment instruments. I have access to the account online and it doesn't seem I can do much from there for now. I'll post here once I've tried to make a small purchase at Santa Isabel with my card. I know it doesn't work for recurring automated payments to a third party (our school and health insurance wouldn't take it for that purposes) nor can it be used for online purchases it seems, given there's no expiration date. I have a Visa Electron in Portugal that has an expiration date and can be used for online and offline purchases. The card BCI gave me seems like a downgraded version of that. It's not like they granted me credit on a RUT and a smile.

I have posted basic wiki entries about the RUT and RUN, now that I understand it a little. As always, edits and expansion by more informed people is welcome.

http://www.allchile.net/chilewiki/index.php?title=RUT

Just tested my card at Santa Isabel, it did work so it's more than just an ATM card.

I opened a barebones current account at BCI with just a RUT. They gave me something that I'm not entirely sure yet whether it's just an ATM card or a debit card. It's written Redcompra and Visa Electron on it but has no expiration date, I've yet to try to make a purchase in a store with it.

Congratulastions...
So this barebones account ,does it come with checks (Paper) or other type of instruments?

Are these credit/debit cards have the bank Logo attached to it?

What about fees and such?

Thanks for the information ,it seems that, we all , will be going to BCI in a near future ...